Talk:Anthony Perkins

Affairs

Are these affairs known to have occurred, or are they merely speculation? -- Zoe

Good question: In the biography of Anthony Perkins by Charles Winecoff (Split Image), choreographer Grover Dale is mentioned as having lived with Perkins for six years prior to them both getting married, and many friends are quoted discussing the relationship, which seems well established. No one named Grover Helms or Alan Dale is mentioned, I wonder if someone was just confused about the names? (Troy Donohue seems to be mentioned as a rival). -- Someone else 04:18 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)

Oops, should have looked up Tab Hunter, not Troy Donohue. Tab Hunter & Tony Perkins are also mentioned as having had an affair. -- Someone else 04:22 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)

I removed the following ludicrous line.

His 1992 death of AIDS complications made many people think that the second explanation might be correct.

Em. Let me understand this. The fact that he died of Aids complications is evidence that he was gay rather than bisexual!!! In case whoever wrote this doesn't know it, being besexual means you have gay sex and straight sex. If he got Aids through gay sex, that does not mean he had to be gay rather than bissexual. Bisexual people get Aids too. And many gay people don't. All the fact that he died of Aids complications shows is that he died of Aids complications. Period. He could have got it through gay sex, through straight sex, through a blood transfusion. And the fact that he had Aids does not prove that he was gay. He could have been gay, bisexual or sexually attracted to old english sheepdogs called Shep for all we know. But whether he got Aids from a male partner or the world's first Aids-carrying sheepdog called Shep is something that barring a seance we will never know. STÓD/ÉÍRE 04:30 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)

The article didnt say he was gay, it said that many people think he was gay. Dietary Fiber

No it said that fact he died of AIds complications meant that he was presumed to be gay rather than bisexual. That is absurd. Being bisexual means having gay sex too. STÓD/ÉÍRE 00:43 Apr 5, 2003 (UTC)

I think the link to "Goodbye again" is wrong. The film "Goodbye again" in which Perkins played is unrelated to the show of ITV. I think the link should point here: http://imdb.com/title/tt0054936/

Universalist Church of America

Are the assertions that he became an ordained minister in the Universalist Church of America totally unfounded? Carolynparrishfan 23:34, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Screenplay Credit

Anthony Perkins co-wrote the 1972 film The Last of Sheila with composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim (Assisins, Into the Woods, et al). The film, directed by Herbert Ross, starred Richard Benjamin, Dyan Cannon, James Mason, Joan Hackett, James Coburn, Ian McShane and Raquel Welch. The film is a "puzzle mystery," meaning that the emphasis of the whodunnit is placed upon the clever and twisted game created by movie producer Clinton Greene (Coburn); solving the game ultimately solves the murder. --70.16.235.252 01:52, 17 December 2005 (UTC)Tristan MacAvery

Thanks, added a line about that. ^_~ -- Schnee (cheeks clone) 02:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Unsourced paragraph

I have removed the paragraph below, as the same nonsense has been included by the same anonymous IP in the Elvis Presley and Tab Hunter articles:

Some of his few chances for escaping typecasting came along, the most notable being when he auditioned for the lead role of Tony in West Side Story, being one of many like Tab Hunter, Warren Beatty,Burt Reynolds, Troy Donahue, Elvis, Keir Dullea, Richard Chamberlain, Gary Lockwood, and Richard Beymer, who all tried out for the role. Perkins, at 28, was in the top five for the role, due to his Broadway experience, but he lost out because he was considered "too old." Ultimately, Beymer got the part. Later, he auditioned for roles in Spartacus, Bonnie and Clyde, and even the roles of Sonny Corleone and Tom Hagen in The Godfather, but he was unsuccessful at getting these roles.

I do not think that there is a reliable source supporting this stuff. Onefortyone 17:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I heard that he did, in fact, audition for West Side Story; and was dismissed due to being much older than the role he was vying for. Even so, if he did get the role of Tony (would have been by a longshot), I think his career would have been boosted a lot! Shame he did mostly TV appearances and the Psycho sequels; such a talented actor.... --Jonathan.Bruce 06:20, 8 Oct 2006 (UTC)

Earliest work

I clearly remember watching a drama show in TV "back in the day" (Fifties) which said, "...and introducing Anthony Perkins..." The title of the broadcast was "Joey" and had a rather haunting theme song mostly just repeating that name. I have never seen this production mentioned in any biography or lists of work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellyk123 (talk • contribs) 13:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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vandalism

someone has vandalised his filmography with the inclusion of 'Why Do the Sexy, Earnest, Charming, Boyish Actors Have To Die So Young From AIDS? I Wish I Was Still Alive', I would remove it but I have no idea how to —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.94.15 (talk) 12:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

This article needs some more sources

For an article that makes some pretty strong claims regarding his personal life, I'm surprised there aren't more sources for these claims. He may not be a living person, but that doesn't mean that care should no longer be taken to ensure everything in the article is a verifiable fact. Wikipedia's credibility rests on the factual accuracies of articles around here. --Whip it! ^{Now whip it good!} 01:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You should tag the disputed parts with , and remove them a few days after if still unsourced. All Hallow's (talk) 02:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Character in Psycho

A point not made in the main Article was the passionate way Mr Perkins came to hate the Role he played in Psycho. He saw it as the ruination of his career. The reason he felt this was he figured Directors always overlooked him because they felt their character role would be eclipsed by the memory audiences had for Norman Bates. A friend remembered him sat next to the telephone at home waiting for work to be called to him. 'If was not for Psycho ......' he once said.Johnwrd (talk) 01:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

On The Beach

No one mentions his role in the 1959 movie "On The Beach". An outstanding movie and a part he played quite well I thought. He was young, handsome and did quite a good acting job as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.93.180 (talk) 16:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Bisexual or closeted gay man?

Was Perkins actually bisexual or was he a closeted gay man in Hollywood? I've heard both and apparently he did go through very early brainwashing/"ex gay" type psycho-therapy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.251.171 (talk) 04:52, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

"He had his first intimate heterosexual experience at the age of 39 while working on the 1971 film The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean to an actress who also appeared in the film." I would highly suggest that someone cites sources that claim that he was bisexual or anything related. ...especially since this article is categorized with "Bisexual actors." Otherwise, this wording and category needs to be removed. Wikipedia does not work through original research or rumor. Xe7al (talk) 02:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

He never identified as bisexual and nothing suggests that he was, apart from being married to a woman until his death, but so was Elton John, and that did not make him bisexual. Drzejstan (talk) 23:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

There are plenty of sources on the net. I shouldnt have to check elsewhere to verify if Hopkins was gay, as i just did. This is an important fact and should be included ASAP.--GoodandTrue (talk) 04:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

You mean Perkins, not Anthony Hopkins. The actress he had his first straight encounter with was Victoria Principal. There's no reason to be cryptic. (2601:1:580:334:C48C:310E:4337:249 (talk) 21:33, 27 December 2014 (UTC))

National Enquirer says Perkins has AIDS before the actor knew himself....

In 1990, the American National Enquirer had this headline, "Psycho Star Has AIDS Virus". No-one was more shocked to see this than the Psycho star himself, Anthony Perkins, who had never had an AIDS test. So, how did this mag get its scoop?

Well, Perkins had given a blood sample to a hospital treating him for facial palsy, the Enquirer illegally obtained the sample, had it tested for HIV and then published, without telling the actor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.77.36 (talk) 16:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Photo

The photo in this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anthony_Perkins.jpg Does not look like Anthony Perkins. Is there any evidence that this photo is genuine?

Mtpaley (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

OK I take that back. Found more photos and it is him. Mtpaley (talk) 21:24, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Filmography edits needed?

In the notes column of his Filmography table, on the line for the 1957 film "Fear Strikes Out" (Jimmy Piersall story), is listed: "1 episode 'The Candidates'"-- I cannot find what TV series this note refers to [anyone else know?], so I did not edit, but I think it is misplaced as I believe "Fear Strikes Out" was a theatrical release of a full-length bio-pic, not a TV series. Perkindd (talk) 18:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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Laserblast

i am confused byy the filmography? it lists anthony perkins as appearing in "Laserblast" movie as "the doctor". But, when you go to the wiki page "laserblast"?? that role is listed as played by Roddy MacDowell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.52.198.225 (talk) 01:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I was unable to verify the appearance of Perkins in Laserblast and have removed mention of it from this article. If someone who knows better (and has a reliable source) wants to add it back in, terrific. (It was added in without explanation by an IP user on 3 September, 2016—their only Wikipedia contribution to date.) Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 01:44, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Wife?

"In 2001, on the day before the ninth anniversary of his death, Perkins' wife died at age 53 in the September 11 attacks aboard American Airlines Flight 11." If Perkins was dead and had been so for nine years, surely that would make her his widow? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.163.80.1 (talk) 11:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Sources

The article contains a great deal of material that lacks inline citations. Some entire sections are unsourced. 24.29.56.240 (talk) 19:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Personal Life Section

Hello! I'd just like to discuss some things in Perkins's "personal life" section.

1. Do you think it'd be important to mention the fact that Tab Hunter publicly admitted that the two of them had a relationship in his 2005 memoir, "Tab Hunter Confidential: the Making of a Movie Star," and 2015 documentary, Tab Hunter Confidential? Saying that it's alleged just makes it seem like it's a mere rumor when Hunter's came out about their relationship. It's also just something to add.

2. I think it's important to at the very least mention that consistently partners like Tab Hunter and Grover Dale, along with confidants like Venetia Stevenson, say that Perkins was homosexual, not bisexual. This also goes in line with a recent edit to his "personal life" section that describes his wish to "go straight." I also think the fact that he didn't sleep with women until his 40s is a telling factor into the idea that Perkins was indeed gay, not bisexual. It's your call, ultimately; just a something to consider.

74.97.22.48 (talk) 00:17, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Huge copyedit needed

This article is littered with grammatical and style errors, contractions, etc that need to be fixed. I don’t have the time at the moment otherwise I would at least begin the task.—ukexpat (talk) 20:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

This edit

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_Perkins&diff=1088374916&oldid=1088374024 looks good to me? 77.103.3.53 (talk) 22:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, as a starting point, I find "inappropriate contact" to be a very vague term, and we shouldn't use euphemisms. DonIago (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm open to something else, but definitively calling it "sexual abuse" isn't appropriate based on the limited information we have. 77.103.3.53 (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

What do you suggest, then, as you're the editor seeking changes? DonIago (talk) 01:36, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

You do not have a WP:CONSENSUS for your changes at this time (as is obvious based on this thread), and as such should not be restoring your edits. DonIago (talk) 01:36, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I gave you nearly a week to respond... also you undid an edit consisting of a fair amount but only gave an objection to a small part of it. I don't think your objection makes sense because it's not vague. Perkin's talks about exactly what happens in the very next sentence. As for what I suggest, my edit is my suggestion and I'm not sure what a better one would be, I'm open to ideas. 77.103.3.53 (talk) 02:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not the only editor who previously opposed your revisions, and the fact that I didn't respond doesn't mean it's okay to put through your edits again. I focused on a small part of it because your edits were extensive enough that I didn't see a way to tackle them beyond looking at one point at a time. I definitely don't feel "inappropriate contact" is encyclopedic phrasing. I can't personally comment on your other edits because I don't have access to the sources...but again, I wasn't the only editor who reverted your changes, either. DonIago (talk) 03:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Well only one other editor did, with no edit summary and marked it as a minor edit and using the rollback feature, which makes me think it was someone who thought they were undoing vandalism by a random IP user. As of now it's fair to say you're the only editor opposing the changes and I've made my case here and in the edit summaries, which haven't been responded to. So is the "innapropriate contact" wording the only thing you want to reverse? 77.103.3.53 (talk) 03:45, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Without hearing from other editors, I feel obligated to wholesale oppose your edits because I haven't heard from anyone else supporting them and you haven't explained how they're improvements over the existing text. DonIago (talk) 04:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I did in my edit summaries. 77.103.3.53 (talk) 05:52, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Edit summaries are not a discussion. DonIago (talk) 12:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

You said I haven't explained when I have. Can you respond to them? 77.103.3.53 (talk) 21:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

As I've already said, if you want to put your edits through, you need to establish a consensus, which means you need to bring other editors into the conversation. You could start by contacting the relevant projects listed at the top of this page and asking for other editors to weigh in, but it may also be the case that other editors aren't weighing in because they don't agree with your edits. I note that you haven't pinged the other editor who reverted you either. My point being, you have options here, and that simply discussing this with me is likely to be your least productive avenue at this point. DonIago (talk) 00:43, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Way too much detail

This article has far too much trivia and speculation about relationships. Could be one-tenth the length. 148.75.173.19 (talk) 17:57, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Agreement. Apparently, the most important aspect of Anthony Perkins' life was his sexuality (over and over again). And I thought that he was a really talented actor. Seems to be lots of loose speculation about dead people who can neither confirm or deny. The article could be trimmed to 25% of it current length and be better for the general reader. Wikipedia does so much right, but these fanboy articles are a blight. Seki1949 (talk) 07:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Consensus on changing image to a photo from his prime

Hi everybody! I tried to change the main header image for the article to this publicity photo from his prime, as opposed to the current header image in which he's aged quite a bit and is past his prime (not to diminish his work in the 70's, of course - but I'm sure everyone would agree that his work in the 50's and 60's is far more important to his career than his 70's minor roles), and it got reverted due to "no improvement" and "no consensus" (not sure how 'improvement' is decided by some people, of course - but I digress). Because of that, I'm looking for consensus from others about this change. With most every article from someone who is deceased, golden age or not, the header image is usually the one that best represents them and their career - not the most recent image, like it would be if they were still alive. Take Cary Grant, for example. We have much more recent photos of Cary Grant (from the same photographer as the current header photo for the Anthony Perkins article, funnily enough), but the header photo for him is a publicity photo from him in his prime, and I think the Anthony Perkins article would be a much better representation of the subject visually if we followed suit. Thanks! CarterLennon (talk) 05:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Your arguments are based on weak, if not incorrect, premises. First of all, the black and white photo of Perkins that you've proposed for the infobox is of him in character, not as himself, and it has him looking away from the camera. Second of all, the Cary Grant photo you cite as being "in his prime" was taken when Grant was 37. The professional color portrait of Perkins that is currently displayed in the infobox was taken when Perkins was 43, so that's hardly "past his prime" by this standard. Third of all, the photo of Grant that you've cited as "from the same photographer" was taken when Grant was 69 (!) which is a ludicrous comparison. Ieonine (talk) 23:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)