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Mašićka Šagovina killings (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The entire article is based on claims of Savo Štrbac ('Veritas') published in the Serbian newspaper Politika. Neither of these are particular pillars of objectivity, which is documented already.

It seems plausible that something like what is described in the article happened, and it also seems plausible that a few people lied or embellished the truth to a few favorably inclined reporters and got them to publish something that sells well in their target market.

The only other citations are to Večernji list, which may well be slanted in the other direction. There's one link to a 1992 article in The Baltimore Sun which I can't access.

So there doesn't seem to be coherent independent confirmation for this narrative from conventionally reliable sources - I couldn't find it in the archive of the Serb National Council which documents a lot of these kinds of killings. I searched the ICTY website, and this place was only mentioned in seemingly unrelated witness transcripts. Balkan Insight has a couple of stories about exhumations in 2013 and 2016 in the area, but makes no claims of massacres. I also checked the Documenta – Center for Dealing with the Past website, and other Croatian websites, and there's just basically nothing, other than war stories from veterans. Usually there should be at least something, even if the information was being suppressed by interested parties.

We shouldn't be parroting such serious claims until there's at least some verification. It doesn't actually do justice to the memory of any people unlawfully killed there to post arbitrary unverifiable stuff about it.

Can anyone else find anything, or do we delete this? --Joy (talk) 10:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the Baltimore Sun link works just fine. It mentions a massacre in this village at the same time with most of the same details. So probably was a thing that happened. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Socialist Alternatives (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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When I stumbled across this article, I was quickly struck by how many of the cited sources were the Socialist Alternatives magazine itself, making up more than half of the cited sources. Then I noticed quite a few citations were to self-published wordpress blogs, which wasn't encouraging. The Encyclopedia of British and Irish Political Organizations doesn't give much more detail other than it being the short-lived British section of the IRMT, and gestures at a couple other organisations it may have been connected to.

What is left over then are mostly sources about Keir Starmer's relationship to the magazine. When I looked up Socialist Alternatives on Google Scholar, I likewise only found biographies of Starmer. I haven't been able to find significant coverage of the group/magazine itself.

Given all this, I'm unconvinced that this group/publication is independently notable. Its only significant coverage in reliable sources are about its connection with someone that became important decades after his involvement with the group. As such, I'm proposing it for deletion; I'm not sure whether the articles on the IRMT or Starmer himself would be more appropriate redirect targets. Grnrchst (talk) 10:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Negros Oriental (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All terms are WP:PARTIAL. In other words, none of these would be confused with "Negros Oriental". HueMan1 (talk) 09:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naygel Coffie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Created in a different time when national team play was within the guidelines; it is not anymore and I was not able to find a single article to contribute to passing WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 09:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Next Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't see much change since the last AfD. It still a case of WP:TOOSOON. The references are merely passing. - The9Man Talk 09:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyohei Yumisaki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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With a career consisting of 15 matches in the lower divisions of Japan, I see the chances of fulfilling WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT as slim. Sources in Ja:wiki are about participating in tryouts that didn't pan out as well as his team finishing second in a university championship. Geschichte (talk) 09:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hadiputradila Saswadimata (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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With only 474 minutes of playtime in Singapore under his belt, I don't see any hope of meeting WP:GNG and/or WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 09:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aldo Bushi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Modest career with 81 minutes in Albania’s highest league and some seasons in the semi-pro seocnd tier with 1–7 games in each. Considering the minor accomplishments, this good source is not enough to push him over the WP:GNG bar. A further source search only yielded stat sites, social media and namesakes. I don’t know what this is, though, it’s a poem marked as humor. Geschichte (talk) 09:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrii Palekha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:FILMMAKER. APK hi :-) (talk) 08:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mehdi_Hasan_Khan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm the subject in the article. I regard myself as a non-notable and private person. There are millions of people who create open-source software and that shouldn't be the bar for having a biography on Wikipedia. Furthermore, this page contains personal information on me, and my family members without any citation/source and violates their privacy as well. Mehdihasankhan (talk) 07:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Table of bases (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This table of base conversions has been unsourced since its creation in 2003. Most of its bases are themselves non-notable and its digit systems for them unstandardized. Wikipedia is WP:NOT a repository for mathematical tables, which in general have become obsolete since the widespread availability of computers. Some entries in Category:Mathematical tables have prose and references; this one is pure calculation. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, it's fine information for a handbook but not an encyclopedia. Gumshoe2 (talk) 18:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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St. Vincent's Home for the Aged (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails NORG. The article contains WP:OR and appears promotional. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 04:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rosemary's Baby (franchise) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After consideration and researching the article myself, I can not find signifigant coverage of Rosemary's Baby as a franchise with a any serious depth. Despite the large amount of citations found in the lead and the amount of content within the article. MOS:FILMSERIES says series and franchise articles would "benefit from coverage that discusses the series as a whole", but we have only been pulling from individual film/tv/work reception and are lacking in material that discusses the entirety of the work. This is predominantly material repeating information already available on the unique film/TV/novel articles.

  • Two articles are primarily about the 50th anniversary of the first film. There is little discussion of it as a series or a franchise outside other briefs about the development of the film.
    • Woman's World has little discussion other than a sequel was made to the film, a follow-up was made to the first book, and a television series was adapted. But there is no real discussion of the franchise from a critical, analytical, or business matter. The articles does not refer to it as a franchise, series, or anything.
    • Mental Floss Similarly, is a list of 13 facts about the first film, some tangentially related to the other material related to either the film or novel.
  • Articles that praise the first film, and the announcement of a sequel/prequel/remake.
    • Collider and The Guardian articles primarily praise the first film, and announce a follow up is being developed. There is little discussion about the whole thing as a series/franchise, while boasting the quality of the first film.
    • Screencrush is probably the closest in detail to anything, but barely traces it mentioning the tv sequel and a miniseries version. No critical analysis, no history of the film's production as a series or franchise with just a brief mention of the cast returning or not returning for 1970s tv-entry.
  • Sources that call it a franchise fail WP:SIGCOV, as they are trivial mentions, that fail to "address the topic directly and in detail."
    • Comicbook.com states "The movie successfully launched a titular franchise, which includes a 1976 made-for-TV sequel, an upcoming streaming exclusive prequel (2024), and a television series adaptation." this is the only amount of depth applied and like the Guardian and Collider sources, are presented as press releases for sequels to give them prestige, there is no context to it as a series.
    • Sportskeeda seems to fail WP:RSP, and can be seen here: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Sportskeeda.

The rest of the article generally rehashes the history of the production of individual items. occasionally peppering in that Rosemary's Baby has been called the greatest [horror] film ever a few times and regurgitates material that is already available in the individual articles for the books, series and novels, and places them side by side with no commentary to why we are comparing them. This goes against WP:UNDUE as we have a lack of "depth of detail, the quantity of text, prominence of placement, the juxtaposition of statements, and the use of imagery. In articles relating to a minority viewpoint, such views may receive more attention and space." In this case, we have barely anything discussing it as a franchise and run with content that is just discussing one film or another and places no information on why we have to know this info or how it relates to each or if it was even important to this group of works. The same goes for the film gross, which lists the first film's gross, then restates it as a "Total" for the series and has no information on how much the novels or TV series, in terms of cost, production or anything. This is just regurgitating information from the first article.

Beyond this, the article presents original research such as an "Official Franchise Logo". At the same time, the logo in question on [on Wikimedia] refers to it as just the films logo, not a series or franchise. From my search, I've only seen it used for the TV adaptation and the original.

On searching books, websites, and the Wikipedia Library, I have found tons of content discussing the novel and first book, but nothing outside spare mentions like the above. I propose that the article be deleted or merged with a legacy section on the first novel and first film respectively for their respective content. Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, "franchise" enough. Plus one forthcoming. Hyperbolick (talk) 10:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hyperbolick: the deletion suggestion is not enough that it exists, the commentary is about if there is enough discussion on whether there is enough signifigant coverage of the topic as a franchise, which this topic fails per the discussion above. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: As there has been votes, but little discussion. I'm going to bring up the essay WP:THREE. This is not wikipedia standard, but I think it will help me address what I'm trying to get across, specifically reading WP:SIGCOV and understanding it, and lastly it suggests after to "Look over your list of sources and find the three that best meet WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV and whatever other guidelines people are citing.". While the editors above have commented that there are "more than enough sources" or simply ""franchise" enough", they did not seem to address the points I was trying to make. On that, I would welcome @Mushy Yank:, @Hyperbolick:, @StarTrekker:, @Dimadick:, and @Trailblazer101: (even though they seem to follow my train of thought, they should be invited to discuss) to come forward and show me how the sources or content follows the WP:SIGCOV rules, specifically ones that "address the topic directly and in detail." per WP:SIGCOV. This is in terms of discussing it as a franchise, over individual films, which is my bigger issue. All other comments and editors are welcome of course.Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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L'Opus Dei: enquête sur le "monstre" (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The only usable source here is La Libre, which is not sigcov and is not enough. Found 1 other journal source that looks good (though I question its independence). Redirect to author Patrice de Plunkett? PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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IronFX (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacks independent coverage outside of WP:TRADES. Fails WP:NCORP. Gheus (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Verum Coin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of coverage in real media. The Guardian article, for example, does not mention the article subject. I'd almost A7 it. Alpha3031 (tc) 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bengal potatoes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is one of very few pages which soft redirect to Wikibooks and the only such page about a food item. Besides this isn't a famous dish either. Kumar Dayal (talk) 13:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Left-wing coalition (Italy) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A very weird incomplete disambiguation page (WP:INCDAB). (1) There is no general/international Left-wing coalition dab page where this could be merged, and I can't find other WP pages listing left-wing coalitions. (2) Maybe there is potential for a WP:BROADCONCEPT article like Left-wing politics in Croatia, but the notability of the topic is unclear: There is no interwiki link (including Italian); List of political parties in Italy mentions "left-wing" once, and List of political coalitions in Italy none. So: Should this page even exist? – sgeureka tc 12:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not technically "create" the article, it was created [4] by @Nick.mon: when there was a coalition of left-wing parties in Sicily which eventually became Free and Equal (Italy) and thus redirected there. It wasn't accurate since there are/were other coalitions before and after. I wouldn't mind a WP:BROADCONCEPT article or maybe something like Centre-right coalition (Italy) (the latter would have the problem that multiple coalition compete, in 2018 there were three coalitions) Braganza (talk) 12:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Jammu (1808) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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KM Panikkar is the only reliable source presented here. Autar Singh Sandhu is not a reliable source as there is only one book that can be traced to him which was written in 1935; there are zero mentions of his educational credentials, bibliography, or reviews of scholarly work available, and he was deprecated by an admin in the RSN-[5]. The link to GULAB SINGH (1792-1857) is broken. Panikkar does make some mention of this battle (in page 15 and 16), but the information is not sufficient enough to warrant an article.

Note: Two Sikh nationalist sockmasters have been undermining my AFDs, one is the Truthfindervert, the second is an unrelenting sockmaster who has been stalking me for 3 years now-HaughtonBrit. His two most recent sockpuppets, Alvin1783 and Festivalfalcon873 were sabotaging my AFDs and making multiple votes in AFDs to retain articles which aggrandized their religion. Even after their blocks, HaughtonBrit has been continuing his campaign against me-here he deleted my PROD; 2 admins have said that this was clearly HaughtonBrit block evading-[6] and [7]. Even after that, he didn't stop and made an illegitimate vote in my AFD-[8]. Please be weary of any suspicious new/burner accounts or proxies who vote here as they are almost certainly going to be HaughtonBrit. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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St Andrews University Canoe Club (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. The most significant source among the references is the two-minute BBC clip, where the club was mentioned in passing in an episode of a TV series about the east coast of Scotland. This university sports club lacks the sort of in-depth, national-level coverage required for WP:ORG. I had boldly redirected this to University of St Andrews Athletic Union, but this was revereted. Mz7 (talk) 09:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - The passing reference is as much about St Andrews university as the canoe club. It tells us almost nothing about the club. Individual university clubs and societies of a University student body are rarely notable. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Signature Global (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The primary citations center around the IPO listing and fundraising efforts. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. At the time of this nomination, an agency had withdrawn a credit rating, and no analyst reports existed on the web. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TCBT1CSI (talk) 08:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Darpan Sanghvi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A promotional biography of a businessman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. TCBT1CSI (talk) 08:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Edelyne Mia Martanegara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject generally fails to meet the WP:GNG and WP:BIO requirements. The only notable achievement is winning a local beauty pageant, and all available references revolve solely around this accomplishment, possibly WP:SINGLEEVENT. Ckfasdf (talk) 06:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Santadas Kathiababa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Thus has already been deleted four times and repeatedly recreated with unsatisfactory sourcing. I think it needs to be salted. Mccapra (talk) 06:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ibayo-Tipas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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We have a consensus that barangays are not automatically or generally notable. Individually they may be, but this one doesn’t seem to be. The sourcing is extremely thin and contrary to what the “expand article” template suggests the article can’t be expanded from Tagalog as the Tagalog article has a single source. Mccapra (talk) 06:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Domenico Moncino Musachi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Weird bio. Assuming the person existed, the quotation contained in the article isn’t about them. Also, since practically nothing is known about them, they would not be notable in any case, and the article could be redirected. But the content of this article doesn’t agree with the information in Voisava Kastrioti, and neither if the two sources cited appear to me to mention the subject. So it looks like either a hoax of some very stretchy OR. Mccapra (talk) 06:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Océan/Atlantic 2000 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable defunct radio station. Fails WP:NCORP, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 05:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cabrils:, I disagree with you. I think the article about Radio Océan/Atlantic 2000 deserves to stay because the topic is notable due to the station being one of the main peripheric radio stations of France. It's part of the radio history. Universalis (talk) 20:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Universalis: It's good you express an opinion here but could you please provide evidence of its notability that supports your claims, per WP:N? This will help the decision making process. Thanks Cabrils (talk) 01:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carlos Deus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable rugby player. No sigcov. Fails WP:SPORTBASIC. Cabrils (talk) 05:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chicas Terremoto del Folklore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable music band. fails WP:BAND. Cabrils (talk) 05:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sada-e-Umeed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Faila NORG. The article contains WP:OR and appears promotional. This was an AfD'd in 2020 that closed as non-consensus. The only vote to keep the article had a counterargument that wasn't addressed. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 04:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gillespie Cave (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable cave, has no sources. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Katie Clarke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for notability since 2018. Not clear whether the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 03:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hamas most wanted playing cards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It's been six months since this was last discussed and I don't find any new sourcing, beyond what was discussed at the last AfD. This appears to have been a SYNTH from various bits of news coverage... While you can find mentions of a "hit list" of sorts that the Israeli army has, it doesn't appear to be a playing card deck. I've not seen coverage of this concept this past year, so nothing has changed, notability-wise. Oaktree b (talk) 03:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Gilbert (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The last AfD nomination was closed on a technicality (as I understand it), but this individual does not seem to have met notability criteria either for ACTOR or even GNG. Hopefully we get can an answer here as to notability. Oaktree b (talk) 03:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 2024 Chernihiv missile strike (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was up for AfD a few months ago, and since then, there have been so many other attacks like this one. I don't see notability, based on the lack of any sort of continued coverage, that would make this attack stand out from the other hundreds of such attacks at this point. NOTNEWS? Discuss below so it can be settled. Oaktree b (talk) 03:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Veleva (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2007. Not clear that the subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 02:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Black Silence: the Lety Survivors Speak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Found no reliable, significant sources. This recent source does call it "controversial", but does not specify why. That does indicate that there may be coverage I was unable to find. There is discussion about the author's investigation into this topic but the author has written several books on it and the coverage isn't about this one specifically, so imo it should go on the author's page if there aren't sources about this book specifically. The one source in the ELs might be coverage of this book, or it might not, could not find it. Redirect to author Paul Polansky? PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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VTES 3rd Edition (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Outside MtG, individual sets of CCGs are almost never notable, and I don't see why this should be an exception. Maybe merge the mention of awards to Vampire: The Eternal Struggle if it is not there and redirect this per WP:ATD-R? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of North American regions by life expectancy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Prod contested. List is original research and synthesis - extracted data in form not present in secondary, reliable sources. Fails WP:NLIST. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 02:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've stated my point of view at the article's talk page. Though the data in the source database were filtered and simple calculations were made, these transformations are obvious and easily verified. All data in the Wikipedia's page are in the source database or can be easily obtained by an obvious mathematical operation.
It's like retelling a text in your own words. When a Wikipedia editor retells a text, he does not retell the whole text but only a part of it. The same way, a Wikipedia editor has not obligation to use necessarily all records in an original dataset - only a part of it can be used. — Lady3mlnm (talk) 07:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Major League Baseball career double plays as a right fielder leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Looked at the sources, and besides baseball-reference, there isn't much to justify the list as a group. If this included all double plays, then it might be more notable as a group, as Baseball Almanac covers it. Since it is only the one position, I think WP:NOTSTATS comes into play. Edit Including the bottom two for the same reason. Conyo14 (talk) 03:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Major League Baseball career double plays as a left fielder leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Major League Baseball career double plays as a center fielder leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Elias Hovdahl Sandrød (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this footballer using both "Elias Hovdahl Sandrød" and "Elias Sandrød" as a search term. JTtheOG (talk) 02:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Major League Baseball career double plays as an outfielder leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for notability over three months ago with no sourcing improvements since then. The article's references consist of an MLB rulebook which is a primary source and baseball-reference.com which is a stats database; neither count towards notability. At present, this article topic fails WP:NLIST, which requires in-depth significant coverage from independent reliable secondary sources that collate and discuss this list topic's entries together as a group or set to establish notability. A WP:BEFORE search came up empty; hence, delete. Left guide (talk) 10:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge per Reywas92. I think top 10 by position is too narrow (I'd favor top 20 or 25 at each position), but the precise number can be sorted out in a talk page discussion (need not be resolved here). Cbl62 (talk) 22:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Elena Baramova (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability tag and BLP sourcing issues have been tagged for the last eleven years. No sources have been added in that time. Despite two previous AFDs, the article is still not referenced. Given the change in attitude towards needing sources on BLPs since the last AFD in 2009, it is time to look at this again. 4meter4 (talk) 02:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hits Radio London (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable radio station. Lacks WP:RS to meet WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 02:28, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Capital Anthems (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable radio station. Lacks WP:RS to establish WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 02:27, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ingemar Burgström (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. Only sources I could find were 2 directory listings in Google books. LibStar (talk) 02:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marko Stout (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted and salted. This new creation must not escape review. Most of the sources are written in a clearly promotional tone and hence are probably not independent of the subject. As one egregious example, the first and last sources are clearly variations of the same press release - starting with In the dynamic arena of contemporary art, few names resonate as profoundly as Marko Stout vs. In the dynamic world of contemporary art, few names shine as brightly as Marko Stout‘s.* Pppery * it has begun... 02:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suemonella (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable TikTok account. Fails WP:RS, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 02:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jens Hammer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable "author" (blogger). Feels self-promotional. Lacks WP:RS, fails WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR. Cabrils (talk) 02:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete promotional article of a non-notable figure Traumnovelle (talk) 02:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kumar Anish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO and WP:AUTHOR. Only 1 article links to this, the school he attended. A google news search seems to come up with mainly namesakes. LibStar (talk) 02:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No claim to notability, no new quality sources found in searches, citations in article are routine, promotional, self-penned, or 404'd, and not significant coverage. Even the book doesn't get more than one citation (and that paper isn't on GScholar). Oblivy (talk) 02:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comilla Girls' College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable school. No WP:RS and unlikely any exist. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. Cabrils (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lika Bibileishvili (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable classical musician. Feels WP:TOOSOON. Page lacks WP:RS and so does not meet WP:MUSICBIO. Could not find any RS via WP:BEFORE. Cabrils (talk) 02:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Fête Worse Than Death (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I was able to find a single review from the Daily Mail on ProQuest and nothing else to pass WP:NBOOK. The Daily Mail is the Daily Mail and is not usable. This looks like a review but I can't tell how long it is, and even if it is that's only one source. Redirect to author Iain Aitch (his article is bad but from the sourcing I found while searching for this, is probably notable)? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cristina Gallardo-Domâs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced BLP. Not clear that subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 01:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anything is better than what we had, which was nothing. Thank you for your effort.4meter4 (talk) 00:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. There might be some more refs I can find. Knitsey (talk) 00:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added more refs. There might be more to come. I would really like for someone to take a look to see if they're suitable? Knitsey (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I should say, I haven't really editied the article much, just provided refs for what was already there. I will re-work it a bit if this AfD results in keep. I need to check on the date order for all the operas listed. Knitsey (talk) 16:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Olga Sober (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Been tagged for sourcing issues since 2011. Not clear if subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 01:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scribe (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails demonstrate notability under WP:NCORP. Both TechCrunch articles are about routine fundraising events (WP:ORGTRIV). And not that it matters but the article was created by a now-blocked SPA. Brandon (talk) 00:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Judith Mok (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for sourcing issues since 2006. Not clear the subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 00:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Finding sources was really easy for this person, they have multiple books with multiple reviews, and numerous interviews. I removed a lot of the material that I couldn't find sources for other than her website and CV. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After rereading that I wanted to clarify that I'm not being snippy with @4meter4 I'm just so used to having to do deep dives into archives at AfD that this was a welcome change of pace. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Giancarlo Turaccio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An article on a non-notable adherent of Menotti Lerro's so-called Empathic Movement (Empathism), part of a "walled garden" type series of articles promoting Lerro and Empathism. All of the sources are primary/press-releases or promo. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NMUSICIAN and WP:NACADEMIC. A before search finds a few things he wrote, but his h-index on Google Scholar and Scopus is non-existant. I did find something the Menotti Lerro wrote on him and other Empathism manifesto signatories, but that is obviously connected. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 01:43, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elvio Annese (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another article on a non-notable artist and professor from a "walled garden"-type series of articles promoting the "members" of Menotti Lerro's "movement/manifesto", Empathism and his New Manifesto of Arts. The subject of this article does not meet WP:GNG, all the sources are primary/connected except the Milano Today source that simple name-checks him in a mention. As an academic, he fails WP:NACADEMIC as he has a h-index of zero on Google Scholar and Scopus, and all I could find was an article written by Lerro about his own (Lerro's) so-called Empathic movement. I beleive this is WP:PROMO and should be deleted. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 01:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Angelo Casciello (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article on an Italian artist is part of a sort-of "walled garden" of articles on artists and academics affiliated with Menotti Lerro's so-called movement, Empathism and who signed his manifesto. The subject of the article does not meet WP:GNG as the sources are all primary sources except, perhaps one, however that may be a press release. Fails WP:NARTIST. The article claims he was in the Venice Bienale 3 times, altho this could not be verified by the Venice Bienale itself [10]], so perhaps he was in one of the satellite shows but not represented in the actual Bienale. As an academic he fails WP:NACADEMIC, as there is an h-index score of zero on Google Scholar and Scopus I found a few things he wrote, but they were not cited by others. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lulu Chow Wang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotional article that doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. AlexandraAVX (talk) 17:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

    People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

    • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

    Sources

    1. Peek, Liz (2007-05-08). "Lulu Wang Throttles Back (Except on the Racetrack)". The New York Sun. Archived from the original on 2024-09-17. Retrieved 2024-09-17.

      The article notes: "Ms. Wang is one of the original members of the Committee of 100, a group of high-level Chinese-Americans — who include I.M. Pei, Yo-Yo Ma, and Oscar Tang — created shortly after the Tiananmen Square crackdown ... The move was accidental. Her father’s job as a senior official with the Nationalist Party took the Chow family to India during the war years of the 1940s. Ms. Wang was born in New Delhi under the crudest of circumstances. ... Following this path, Ms. Wang moved on to Bankers Trust Co., where she was soon responsible for analyzing about 20% of the Standard & Poor’s 500. ... Ms. Wang opened Tupelo Capital Management in 1998. Her husband, Anthony Wang, had made a fortune at Computer Associates, a firm founded by his brother, which ran into problems after Tony Wang retired in 1992."

    2. Zernike, Kate (2000-04-16). "Couple Gives Wellesley a Record $25 Million". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2024-09-17. Retrieved 2024-09-17.

      The article notes: "Lulu Wang is the founder of Tupelo Capital Management, a name chosen tongue-in-cheek with reference to one of Wellesley's more girlish traditions. ... Mrs. Wang has been a member of Wellesley's board of trustees since 1988, and is the first woman to head the board's investment committee, which is in charge of investing the college's endowment, valued at about $1 billion. She also heads the finance committee of the New York Community Trust and serves on a number of other boards in New York, including the Rockefeller Family Fund, WNYC and the Metropolitan Museum of Art."

    3. Norton, Leslie P. (2002-12-09). "The Chinese Connection". Barron's. ProQuest 201096765. Archived from the original on 2024-09-17. Retrieved 2024-09-17.

      The article notes: "One newly prominent donor is Lulu Wang, a patrician Chinese-American who runs Tupelo Capital Management, a New York money-management firm. Wang came here with her family from Shanghai in 1948; a vacation became permanent immigration as her father, tied to the Nationalists, opted to stay in America. Her $25 million gift to Wellesley College, from which she graduated in 1966, was given to build a new student center. Construction on the Wang Campus Center will start next year, and finish in 2004. Wang has been active for years in philanthropic circles -- she's a board member of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York public radio station WNYC, and Wellesley. She's also funding Bill Moyers' coming PBS series "Becoming American: The Chinese Experience.""

    4. Less significant coverage:
      1. Agnew, Harriet (2022-03-03). "Ark Invest CEO Cathie Wood on everything from deflation to Elon Musk". Financial Times. Archived from the original on 2023-09-17. Retrieved 2024-09-17.

        The article notes: "In 1998, as the dotcom bubble was reaching its climax, Wood and one of her colleagues, Lulu Wang, left Jennison to set up a fund in New York called Tupelo Capital Management. By the end of March 2000, the peak of the tech bubble, Tupelo’s assets under management had reached almost $1.4bn, according to a regulatory filing. Twelve months later, Tupelo’s assets had slumped to around $200mn, according to a separate regulatory filing."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Lulu Chow Wang to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 05:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The Barrons article is about her father, and gives her a single paragraph, and one that is very similar to other short paragraphs about her. I find it interesting that the NYT article (which also has 2 paragraphs about her, the rest refers to she and her husband as a unit) says that they declined to be interviewed. This may indicate that she has been reticent about publicity, and that may explain why we don't have much about her. Ditto the Financial Times article (which has only a mention of Wang) which says "Wang declined to comment." I did find one more article about her at msnbc. This has a lot of her words so it resembles an interview but isn't presented in interview form. I think it's worth digging, but I am not finding the kind of analysis that would be independent. Everything I see just reiterates the same few facts about her. It's kind of frustrating, I admit. Lamona (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you for uncovering the MSNBC article which is a very good find. That in-depth profile solidifies her notability. I think there is enough nontrivial coverage across all the sources for Lulu Chow Wang to meet Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria which says, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability." Cunard (talk) 09:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - in addition to the two New York Times sources and the ones mentioned above I found one from MSNBC. There are others as well to pass WP:GNG. Nnev66 (talk) 01:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Estonian exonyms (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Wikipedia is not a dictionary; an alternative to reading this article would be reading an Estonian dictionary. Also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French exonyms, which resulted in the French equivalent of this article being deleted. As argued there, this list is an indiscriminate list of place names. I agree that an article about the linguistic and historical aspects of the formation of place names in Estonian would be notable, but that is not what this is. SJD Willoughby (talk) 01:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rico women's national under-18 softball team (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject lacks the needed coverage to meet the WP:NORG. Let'srun (talk) 00:45, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Dastak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have multiple reasons for proposing this article for deletion. Firstly, the page creator is blocked. Secondly, all the references provided are fabricated. The page creator has deceptively used the term 'National Dastak' in the title to mislead other editors. The article fails to meet the criteria outlined in WP:GNG and WP:WEB from any perspective." Youknow? (talk) 19:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Websites, and India. Youknow? (talk) 19:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The sources do exist, but they're all trivial mentions in lists or attributions - not the kind of discussion of the subject needed to show notability. Adam Sampson (talk) 20:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. This is not G5 eligible, as the creator was not a sock of a then-blocked editor: as such the creator's block is not relevant. And the basic facts provided in the article do check out, it's obviously not a hoax. Whether it's notable, I'm less certain: there is coverage, including articles focused on on this channel: [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], and a handful of others. There's not a lot of detail, hence "weak". Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Reviewed the page and the sources and I do see where the mislead was attempted where title of the sources were changed.
    • Source 1 misleading title on the page is "#BeingADalit: How the Online Boom news websites like National Dastak that talk of Bahujan samaj" but the actual title is "#BeingADalit: How the Online Boom is Helping Dalits Reclaim and Reassert Their Identity". There is nothing in the source except for passing mention that says "Yadav has previously worked with news websites like National Dastak that talk of Bahujan samaj."
    • Source 2 misleading title on the page is "National Dastak, which provide reportage and videos from a Bahujan perspective to counter the perspective of the upper caste-dominated mainstream English and Hindi media" but the actual title is "BSP war room is turning up the heat on BJP and SP". The source has nothing significant except for passing mention that says "There are also news portals like National Dastak, which provide reportage and videos from a 'Bahujan' perspective to counter the perspective of the upper caste-dominated mainstream English and Hindi media."
    • Source 3 has passing mention that goes "There are YouTube channels widely watched by Dalits, including National Dastak...".
    • Source 4 has passing mention that goes "Web channel National Dastak played the video of Chandrashekhar Azad addressing the protesters."
    • Source 5 has misleading title on the page that says "As per a report of the National Dastak, Riya Singh, a Dalit will pursue Ph D in Women's Studies" but the actual title of the source is "Riya Singh, a Dalit, tops TISS entrance exam". This source has nothing except for passing mention that is shown in the misleading title of the source.
    • Source 6 has passing mention that says "In Uttar Pradesh, BJP is the single largest party across the polls except for National Dastak which is predicting BSP victory."
    • Source 7 has passing mention that says "Speaking to National Dastak after organizing ‘Blood donation’ programme".
    • Source 8 has passing mention "Videos on National Dastak have over 88 crore views." All the sources are poor with no significant coverage on the channel. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 18:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Notability is based on the sources that exist, not ones that are in the article. When I have provided other sources above, you need to demonstrate that they do not confer notability. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did not look at the sources you provided in your vote but I did now. Source 1 is giving me 404 error, source 2,4,5,6 are all same WP:ROUTINE news about union government asking YouTube to take down ‘National Dastak’ from its platform. Source 2 is likely unreliable as Mumbai Mirror's about us page has comments from Wikipedia and the disclaimer says that it does not take responsibility for the reports by contributors. Source 3 is about the Journalist Anmol Pritam who works for YouTube channel National Dastak and was forced to chant a slogan by a mob and the article has also claims made by the journalist himself to another news media. This is all routine news. Not enough to pass WP:NCORP imv. RangersRus (talk) 20:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Vanamonde93 added Ref and WP:NEXIST there is Hindi coverage about the channel.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The issue is that the additional sources provided do not meet WP:WEBCRIT. All of the sources except for two fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA so they are not reliable. This one simply mentions a journalist that works for National Dastak while this one provides some detail but isn't in-depth (and if considered in-depth, that leaves one reference). --CNMall41 (talk) 07:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Strong Keep with million subscribers, this channel is one of the most important YouTube news platform and I think a lot of reference will be found if searched.
Admantine123 (talk) 09:04, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Admantine123, it's the responsibility of editors wanting to Keep an article to go out and locate those reliable sources as Vanamonde93 has done. I'm not sure who else you thought would spend the time in this "search". Liz Read! Talk! 02:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ha Khel Sawalyancha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cannot locate sources to show notability. There are a few mentions but nothing that amount to significant coverage. CNMall41 (talk) 18:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Source analysis.
    • Source 1 is unreliable source and the listing is copied from imdb with reference to imdb. No significant coverage on the film.
    • Source 2 is same listing of cast, director, producer, musicians. No significant coverage.
    • Source 3 is a link to a song on YouTube video. Nothing significant here either.

I looked for sources online to get significant coverage and WP:NFILM but after 4 pages of search, I could not find any secondary independent reliable sources. RangersRus (talk) 11:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: I referenced two sources in Award section and noted a film in several Marathi books such as -.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Morekar (talkcontribs)
    @User:Morekar, the books you provided here aren't verifiable. Please read WP:OFFLINESOURCES and provide the full bibliographical details, most importantly, the page numbers. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Done.@SafariScribe Allows to verify the film was a great success according to sources (not to mention the cast, plot, themes, etc). Thank you for your concern. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:49, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note. None of the new sources with Google books links are verifiable. All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation with page number(s) to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. RangersRus (talk) 10:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I hate redirects being turned up after redirecting and I would prefer deletion to an obviously non notable article. While we try to save an article as much as possible per WP:ATD, we should be careful to avoid leaving non notable ones as redirects (my opinion). This article, to all eyes, doesn't meet WP:NFILM and if the casts are notable, then there should be a bit, atleast, WP:SIGCOV. Bearing the lack of SIGCOV in mind, I would be ready to redirect to the director's article (who also clearly doesn't meet WP:NDIRECTOR) if reliable sources that could be used to verify the cast and crew of the film are provided. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There are imv sources on the page to verify partially the cast and crew. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. All the changes have been reviewed and analyzed in my last note. RangersRus (talk) 19:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most of them, indeed, the Gbooks refs, are mentioned as a whole in your general note ("reviewed and analysed" is a bit of an overstatement, I’m afraid, as yourself stated you couldn’t access them, :D); but still, the page has significantly changed. Also see WP: Systemic bias, thank you very much. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not surprised by your response. As i said earlier the so called "significant changes", the Google books fail verification with no page number and inline citation and that is my review and analysis about it if you could pay attention. See WP:V. RangersRus (talk) 20:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn’t mean to surprise you but I did pay attention, thank you; that is precisely why I think that calling your note a ’review and analysis’ of those sources is a tiny bit misleading. You just couldn’t access and verify them. It would be better indeed if we could, but again see the link that I provided above. The changes are significant, maybe not satisfactory, I agree, because we cannot check the full text, but significant, they are, and stating otherwise is also rather a little misleading. People who have visited the page before nomination can check it now and see if they can verify the added sources, for example or if they find them useful; hence my insertion of the template, which your comment tries to undermine unduly, in my view. If so-called should apply to something it is not to the 'significant changes', I should say. Consider this my final reply to you as I do not care very much for the tone of your last reply, to be honest. Thank you again for your reply and concern. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you but it is no help and thank you for your final reply. Nothing significant as expected. RangersRus (talk) 21:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: a rapid check allowed me to verify 3 of the sources added through Gbooks (I added the page for 2 ). I see now even less reasons to doubt the veracity of the sources added by Morekar. I thought there might have been a transcription problem but no, the title in most of the cited English sources apparently corresponds to the title of the article. I’ll do my best to add the pages of other sources cited, though, as this might be helpful.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC) (I have added the pages to all of the significant references added by Morekar, that should now be considered verifiable and verified :D; I will not re-add the AfD changed template, though :D; )[reply]
How are these "significant references" again? Verifiability is not notability unfortunately. Are you able to show what RangerRus is requesting below? I am willing to withdraw the nomination if it turns out t be significant coverage but I cannot locate anything either. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I took time and verified all the pages on each Google sources on the page and the claims it made (even though the onus is on the editor who adds the source to provide verification), there is nothing significant. No significant coverage in any source and even the source under reception is not even a review but just a passing mention. RangersRus (talk) 23:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I was making that assumption based on no replies from previous requests as well. Thanks for taking the time. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment:@Morekar: Can you please provide page numbers along with inline citation of what the sources actually say to check if it is just an entry or something significant. We need significant coverage and I googled but just found entries and nothing significant. If you can provide all the information that helps with the content for verification, it will help. RangersRus (talk) 21:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I was able to verify all the sources you added and as expected nothing significant to pass WP:NFILM. RangersRus (talk) 23:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • AfD participants are invited, by the template inserted above in the discussion, to read the page and not simply assume or assert the changes are not significant and the sources add no weight to notability. A single source, for example, stating the film was a ’superhit’ (source wording) is significant per se. And denying it is at best bizarre.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:57, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Being a 'super hit' does not make something notable. It must be shown so through significant coverage. What is "bizarre" is that two editors have asked for the excerpts of those references that some are citing as significant yet nothing has been provided except assertions.--CNMall41 (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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An Chol-hyok (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. The one source provided is not nearly enough. Redirect to 2010 North Korean World Cup squad. Simione001 (talk) 00:08, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Seung-il (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Redirect to 1966 World Cup squad. Simione001 (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]