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Resolve conflict please

Need your involvement Admin Sahib Ranjit Singh article

Ranjit Singh

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Reason: small level of vandalism.

RegentsPark, Ranjit singh Article has been conflicted by editor see user:Hind ji,he always edit jat caste related articles or I think he belongs to jat caste please see the log of user:Hind ji[[1]]So your involvement requested to resolve the conflict ,there are variety of resources available on the internet but recently University had his researched on criminal tribes shows Ranjit Singh belongs to sansi caste :Hind ji try to declared Ranjit Singh as jat ,I have added that link as reliable source or as reference but one of user:Hind ji has reverted my edit without informing me .I may also have been wrong ,kindly resolve our issues.hope for early reply Thank you.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/research-on-tribes-dubbed-criminal-by-british-397524 He trying to create influence of jat caste .

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Emailtolucky10 (talk) 14:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HISTORY THE CASTE OF MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH WAS SAID TO BE OF A SANSI SIKH AS PER THE OLD RECORDS FOUND IN LAHORE PAKISTAN WHICH NEEDS TO BE CHECKED AS THE AMRITSAR AIRPORT WAS NAMED AFTER HIM AS RAJASANSI AIRPORT HOWEVER HE IS ALLEGEDLY OF THE JAT SIKH FAMILY MAY PLEASE BE CHECKED WITH THE RECORDS FOUND IN THE LAHORE FORT PAKISTAN

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reg info in issue section

Maharaja Kharak singh was born on 24th Feb, 1800 (Samvat 1857). Ref. Umdat-ut-twarikh Kanwar Rattan Singh was born on 1802. So request you to kindly edit the info section by adding kanwar Rattan singh followed by the rest as he was the second son.

I also appreciate your protection mode in this matter as few were inclined to deteriorate the family history.

Appreciate your kind understanding.

Thanks & Regards Kanwar Sandeep Singh Sukherchakia (Adv) Kanwar sandeep (talk) 17:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In section Early years

Maharaja Ranjit singh was a Suryavanshi Rajpootra of Kashyap Gotra. The symbol of Surya can be seen in his dome.

Secondly in the section Early years it reads "Sandhawalia Jat" which is wrong because how can Maha Singh form a Sukherchakia Misl if he was a Sandhawalia Jat? The information conflicts here and also on village sukherchak which is 8 miles from the fort city Amritsar which was the jaddi pind settled by Budda Singh (Desi) where as the Sandhawalia pend is Raja Sansi where you will find the samadhas of Sandhawalia's ancestors only and not a single one from our family.

Dear Editor, I want to make many changes in this topic because this history is misleading as it's devoid of certain facts. Maharaja Ranjit Singh born on 13th Nov, 1780 in Badrukha and not in Gujranwala, because when Maha Singh received the news of his birth he was at a Muhim and Gujranwala was always vulnerable.

Appreciate your understanding!

You can contact me, so that i can provide you all the necessary information which requires a serious edit.

Thanks & Regards Kanwar Sandeep Singh Sukherchakia (Adv. SC) Kanwar sandeep (talk) 17:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I feel you disagreement is nothing but just am speculation to mislead the article transparency the source inclining he was undisputedly have connection with samdhawalia background but if you still have any misconceptions regarding his ancestry He was indeed a Jat which can be determined if you check his maternal ancestral household almost all of them were affiliated with Jat background, please seek some consolation from your near by doctor {{duck}} भारतसरकार-विभाग (talk) 15:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am Kunwar Sandeep Singh Sukherchakia, 8th generation direct descendent of Maharaja Ranjit Singh as per my kursi Nama of 1851-52 and 1891-92 which can be verified with the revenue department Amritsar and Lahore Durbar book Royal Establishments. Marrying a girl of JAT family does not make him JAT or a MUSLIM as he had 4 Muslim wives also so your vices shall never be correct, secondly I know more than anybody else about my family like you do for your family. Furthermore, the symbol of SUN inside the ceiling of his DOME cannot be let redundant against your reply. SUN means that he was a SURYAVANSHI and KASHYAP GOTRA. For your reference after finding more about my family from SALVAHAN with the reference from Matsya Poorana it was established that Salvahana is from the SATAVAHANA DYNASTY which was founded by the son of Manu SUDUMYA at present day PAITHAN in Maharastra then known as Pratisthanpura. The archeological survey of India recently has excavated the site and found the ancient city and since you are in BHARTA SARKAR you can get an access before you can defend any of your historical knowledge acquired by the false history. I want to stop this by putting the correct history up in this platform for the future readers. Ref: Giani Gyan Singh Gyan, Matsya Poorana. Kanwar sandeep (talk) 11:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also would like to bring into your kind attention that being an practicing advocate in Supreme Court of India and my interest in my family history has led me to the research on my family and bring into the public about its correct facts. The admin should allow me to make important changes to the page in MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH. Thanks & Regards Kanwar sandeep (talk) 11:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kanwar sandeep

Ok lets just we believe your assumption is hypothetically true however it still not make any different because you trying to achieve Suketchakia and Sandhawalia were quite equivalent as family as hole while sukeechakia is a broader twrm consolidate for misl on the other hand sandhawalia is correlated a nuclear family but still id doesn’t pose any effect on Ranjit singh Background for sure thanks alot 61.0.61.83 (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply. Further to your questions I would like to clear that SANDHAWALIA are a different community who are BHATTI JAT from Village Raja Sansi in Amritsar later migrated to the frontier area where they established a village called SANDHA hence were called as SANDHAWALIA.

Now, my family elder Budda Singh (Desi) settled a village SUKHERCHAK which is 8 miles from the walled city of Amritsar and later Chadak Singh Shifted from Sukherchak to Frontier area "GUJRANWALA, now in Pakistan. SO these are two different families Sandhawalia who are Bhatti Jat and where as ourselves are SURYAVANSHI RAJPOOTRAS, KASHYAP GOTRA which is an ancient family related to olden times SATAVAHANA Dynasty founded King SUDUMNYU the son of MANU who migrated from Sindh and settled in PAITHAN or PRATISTHANPURA which is in MAHARASTRA India. (Ref. Matsya Poorana). The DOME of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in LAHORE has a symbol of SURYA (SUN) atop the dome from inside.

So this is the difference which matters as one family "THE SANDHAWALIA" who are Jat have R1a1 DNA which is found in Central Asia and our family is coming from a different part and have no match of DNA with the SANDHAWALIAS.

Ref: Gyan Singh Gyan a renowned historian has written on the origin of our family from king Salvahana who ruled from the banks of Lower Narmada towards down south from its banks and later defeated Emperor Vikramaditya and captured the Upper parts of Narmada and established his capital at SIALKOT (Now in Pakistan).

Thanks & Regards

With respect to wikipedia information of Maharaja Ranjit Singh my great grand father Kanwar sandeep (talk) 11:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2405:201:5027:800:B117:9FA7:E195:91EC (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death of maharaja ranjit singh due to paralysis

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NotAGenious (talk) 17:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death

death of maharaja ranjit singh due to paralysis 2405:201:5027:800:B117:9FA7:E195:91EC (talk) 11:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review request

Moved from User talk:The joy of all things

The following has just appeared on my talk page:

== Need quick assessment *Ranjit Singh (friendly intervention) ==

@The joy of all things Straightforwardly, Hey may LubanaPB02 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) have been recently involved in the manipulation and extreme case of vandalism in a well planned organised manner can you please try to revert his latest edit specifically on Ranjit Singh thanks in advance if your received my message!! Bold 14.192.211.11 (talk) 21:07, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

:Hey man you need to look after this toxic case sorry for my unwanted turbulence but this guy removed the family background at Ranjit Singh please try to revert it However I don't able to this at this movement of time @The joy of all things :Thanks and regards 14.192.211.11 (talk) 21:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

As I have no expertise in this area, and I don't know what has been going on, perhaps someone else can shed light on this? I don't think I've even edited this article. Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah actually, this user i reported to your talk discussions bar he actually changing the early life from Samdhawalia Jats( with actually attributed at reference ) to any unsorted desired entity such as Sansi of ranjit singh without providing any kind of minimal sources and refine citations he randomly change its historical context without any source enhancements as I mentioned earlier @LubanaPB02 not only change the perameter but also change his early literally a case COU Vandalism @The joy of all things thansk Supreme~limitless (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Its usually case of vandalism if you formalised the intention of user because its need extended confirm access to propagate its original aspirated version Supreme~limitless (talk) 22:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey fallow moderators, straightforwardly jumping to the mettle of topic so look there i provide the summary if you are willing to revert the the older version before then vandal LubanaPB02 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) make it sure source still attributing to be previous perimeter with Sandhawalia Jats and Sidhu^[1]^[2]^{[note 1]} you can clearly figure it out in rest of periferal in revision only without any expertise Supreme~limitless (talk) 22:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I have absolutely no idea what you are requesting here. PianoDan (talk) 23:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Arora, A. C. (1984). "Ranjit Singh's Relations with the Jind State". In Singh, Fauja; Arora, A. C. (eds.). Maharaja Ranjit Singh: Politics, Society, and Economy. Punjabi University. p. 86. ISBN 978-81-7380-772-5. OCLC 557676461. Even before the birth of Ranjit Singh, cordial relations had been established between the Sukarchakia Misal and the Phulkian House of Jind. ... the two Sikh Jat chiefships had cultivated intimate relationship with each other by means of a matrimonial alliance. Maha Singh, the son of the founder of Sukarchakia Misal, Charat Singh, was married to Raj Kaur, the daughter of the founder of the Jind State, Gajpat Singh. The marriage was celebrated in 1774 at Badrukhan, then capital of Jind¹, with pomp and grandeur worthy of the two chiefships. ... Ranjit Singh was the offspring of this wedlock.
^ Singh, Patwant; Rai, Jyoti M. (2008). Empire of the Sikhs: the life and times of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. London: Peter Owen. p. 69. ISBN 978-0720613230.
^ McLeod, W. H. (2009). The A to Z of Sikhism. Scarecrow Press. p. 172. ISBN 978-0810863446. Sikhs remember Maharaja Ranjit Singh with respect and affection as their greatest ruler. Ranjit Singh was a Sansi and this identity has led some to claim that his caste affiliation was with the low-caste Sansi tribe of the same name. A much more likely theory is that he belonged to the Jat got that used the same name. The Sandhanvalias belonged to the same got.
^ Singh, Birinder Pal (2012). 'Criminal' Tribes of Punjab. Taylor & Francis. p. 114. ISBN 978-1136517860. Ibbetson and Rose and later, Bedi, had clarified that the Sansis should not be confused with a Jat (Jutt) clan named Sansi to which perhaps Maharaja Ranjit Singh also belonged.

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[Arora-1] Arora, A. C. (1984). "Ranjit Singh's Relations with the Jind State". In Singh, Fauja; Arora, A. C. (eds.). Maharaja Ranjit Singh: Politics, Society, and Economy. Punjabi University. p. 86. ISBN 978-81-7380-772-5. OCLC 557676461. Even before the birth of Ranjit Singh, cordial relations had been established between the Sukarchakia Misal and the Phulkian House of Jind. ... the two Sikh Jat chiefships had cultivated intimate relationship with each other by means of a matrimonial alliance. Maha Singh, the son of the founder of Sukarchakia Misal, Charat Singh, was married to Raj Kaur, the daughter of the founder of the Jind State, Gajpat Singh. The marriage was celebrated in 1774 at Badrukhan, then capital of Jind¹, with pomp and grandeur worthy of the two chiefships. ... Ranjit Singh was the offspring of this wedlock.

[2] Singh, Patwant; Rai, Jyoti M. (2008). Empire of the Sikhs: the life and times of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. London: Peter Owen. p. 69. ISBN 978-0720613230.

[3] McLeod, W. H. (2009). The A to Z of Sikhism. Scarecrow Press. p. 172. ISBN 978-0810863446. Sikhs remember Maharaja Ranjit Singh with respect and affection as their greatest ruler. Ranjit Singh was a Sansi and this identity has led some to claim that his caste affiliation was with the low-caste Sansi tribe of the same name. A much more likely theory is that he belonged to the Jat got that used the same name. The Sandhanvalias belonged to the same got.

[4] Singh, Birinder Pal (2012). 'Criminal' Tribes of Punjab. Taylor & Francis. p. 114. ISBN 978-1136517860. Ibbetson and Rose and later, Bedi, had clarified that the Sansis should not be confused with a Jat (Jutt) clan named Sansi to which perhaps Maharaja Ranjit Singh also belonged.

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